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Post by SamAshworth on Mar 9, 2014 12:38:37 GMT 1
As a Seasider in exile (read: impoverished student in Sheffield), how bad is it at the minute? Are we playing really badly, or is it just being outplayed on he day with a bit of a lack of confidence and bad luck? Is there anything to cling on to, other than just the standard Blackpool "we have to win eventually?"
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Post by pikeypete on Mar 9, 2014 19:44:21 GMT 1
Sorry to report Sam but its about as bad as it gets. We have league one players playing league one football and guess what...we're heading for league one. Unless Fergie can generate some fire in their bellies we are doomed. As the majority of the players are either out of contract or on loan they don't seem to have the desire necessary to drag themselves out of this monumental run. KO is giving the impression that he's enjoying the fans plight (even if he's secretly not) by silly gestures and spouting the same old "we do it our way" mantra. He's built a castle of sand and the tide has come in. With my Son heading off to Uni next year I'm seriously wondering whether I need this next season. Its like watching a car crash and the worst part is that it could so easily have been different. Instead we have owners fleecing the clubs past success, angry or disillusioned fans, and hopeless, gutless players. (there are one or two exceptions but you get my drift)
No Full backs Two central defenders that can't pass A midfield that can't pass or run very much A load of strikers but non of them know how to score.
Anyway its Milwall next up......and there's always hope.
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Post by sandgrown'un on Mar 9, 2014 23:24:41 GMT 1
Was it ever thus?
Listen in people, being a Blackpool fan has always been the same and I go back a very long way. The only difference now is you can share your grievance to the masses. Stop whinging people and get real, you are Seasiders and you should behave like Seasiders.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE.
UTMP
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Post by pikeypete on Mar 9, 2014 23:55:45 GMT 1
If behaving like Seasiders means accepting this situation as the way it has always been, and always will be then I not going to behave like one if thats OK with you.
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Post by yeoldetangerine on Mar 10, 2014 21:03:12 GMT 1
Hi Sandy, was only wondering the other day what you would be thinking of the current situation, guess I should have known, you never deviate one iota My twopennorth is that I wish everyone at the club, from KO to Stan, would remember the legacy of years gone by, when people like you took your life in your hands to raise money to keep the club afloat. When we went away, we stood together; the team, even if a bunch of guys who would make the current lot look like Chelsea, would fight for the cause, the managers got passionate. We were so pleased when the ground development started, promotion to the Championship was almost unbelievable, the team was just that, looked after each other ( I will forever remember Gnasher putting Barton into the hording after he started niggling). So, my friend, I expect the club to carry on doing the same. I don't give a monkey's what the O's take out of the club, but I want them to work as hard at making their business a success, and our team a success, and, at the moment, we seem rudderless. I say all the above as a supporter for life (remember what Big J used to say about fans?), will be forever more, but want to be as proud of the performances as I am of being Tangerine. How's the handicap?
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Post by pikeypete on Mar 11, 2014 0:05:05 GMT 1
I'll try to articulate my current dilemma re BFC with an example that may have been forgotten. When John Jo Shelvey came to us on loan he said that Stephen Gerrard had advised him to come to us because we were a good team and he would do well. That's it.Just absorb that comment for a while. One of the best English players in the modern game recommended a teammate from one of the best teams in Europe to come to Bloomfield Rd to progress his career. For the first time I knew we were reborn as a club and recognised for a brand of football that many teams admired. We were known worldwide for a fearless style of play win or lose. It was more than I had ever dared hope for and all my mates who support lower league teams were profoundly jealous. It gave every true supporter of struggling unfashionable teams hope that one day it could be them. I knew it wouldn't last and I didn't care. Since Holloway left I have watched the club fall into an ugly place bit by bit to a point where even the players seem to have given up and the chairman behaves like an infantile idiot. I am not a customer, I am a fan. It is not just a business, its my team and I have never been less proud than I am now. I am looking for scraps of hope here and if the team could show some bloody fire then it would be a start.
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Post by mickyg on Mar 12, 2014 10:03:53 GMT 1
To add my two penneth to the discussion, all I have to say is, yes it's a seriously bad patch (difficult to remember worse really) and things do not look good at the moment. The disappointing thing for me is when I come onto the forum......I read dissention, disappointment, despair (and Sandy's usual stoicism of course).....Jesus, even Ye Olde's glass is starting to look half empty! Whatever happened to that greatest of 'pool fan's qualities.....optimism? C'mon people, there's 11 games left to go, which by my calculation is a potential 33 points, so if we finish the season as well as we started that's 71 points and a play-off place! We're still defying the bookies as favourites for relegation even now after this disasterous run. So come on peeps, chins up and look forward to the rest of the season!
Just to add, to my mind the current mood is summed up by the fact that it's the 12th of December last year since anybody posted a "Joke to start the day"......just sayin' like!
C'mon the 'pool, c'mon the 'pool, C'mon the 'pool, c'mon the 'pool, C'mon the 'pool, c'mon the 'pool, C'mon the 'pool, c'mon the 'pool, C'mon the 'pool, c'mon the 'pool,
This post is dedicated to the memory of BJC.
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Post by april13th1970 on Mar 12, 2014 19:57:33 GMT 1
If the Dingles lose tonight, it's still mathematically possible we can get automatic promotion
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Post by yeoldetangerine on Mar 12, 2014 20:57:21 GMT 1
I'll have a pint of whatever you two have been drinking !!
And Micky, BJC was always glass half full, he and Sandy always put the rest of us to shame
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Post by april13th1970 on Mar 13, 2014 3:06:14 GMT 1
Dingles only drew so it's still mathematically possible to go up automatically
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Mar 13, 2014 17:23:12 GMT 1
think if i opened my mouth it could turn into a long long post
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Post by sandgrown'un on Mar 17, 2014 13:29:54 GMT 1
My apologies if I sounded harsh on anybody, it wasn't meant. We had some lovely days in the sun under Holloway and I, as much as most, enjoyed that period immensely. Football is forever transient and moves in great ebbs and flows. Who would ever have thought that clubs like Sheff Utd, Sheff Wed, Leeds, Ipswich and quite a few others would be where they are now. Leicester are on the up after quite a few years in the doldrums. Southampton were in League 1 only a couple of years ago.
Too many Blackpool fans have got too much expectation after those glorious days in the Prem. Ye Olde mentioned the year we went into the Championship and I have a picture of me crying like a baby at Wembley; I just couldn't believe we were there. When I looked at the teams and the fixtures before that first season in the Championship it didn't seem real and I was filled with excitement but also trepidation in a way.
I wont even tell you then how I felt about getting into the Premier League, it would take a book.
But, that was then and now is now. Standing on the Shay at Halifax on a Tuesday night in winter in freezing rain with about fifty other mad fans was then, sitting in a lovely seat at Wigan for that first Premier League fixture and going top of the League for an hour or so was also then. Sorry guys but now is now so lets get on with it. It is what it is. It could have been worse, you could have been born in that place up the road that thinks its a city. Pish!! Always, always get behind the team and that includes management.
I know I am just an old dinosaur and I sometimes think my passion for our beloved Seasiders is perhaps just too intense and is why I exiled myself a couple of seasons ago after fifty odd years.I was falling out with my own fans for getting on the players backs you see, which I disliked intensely. But that's me, Hey Ho!
UTMP
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Post by pikeypete on Mar 17, 2014 17:54:14 GMT 1
Non taken haha
Actually I agree with 99% of that Sandy its just the investment/legacy side of things we differ on. I do/did expect more. Nothing mad just something.
But we're fans first and foremost so more in common than not.
Perspective is a good thing so......
UTMP indeed
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Post by whitstabletangerine on Mar 17, 2014 18:07:26 GMT 1
I don't think anyone would disagree with you Sandy but and it is a big but the owners could have done a lot more in investing in our future from the gains that were made in 2010. Our owner admitted in May 2009 that he and Ollie agreed the training ground was not fit for purpose, but nothing has happened, we played for a number of seasons on a pitch not much better than a ploughed field when we had a manager that had us playing a passing game which we had not seen the likes of for years. I feel and I know many fans I have met feel the same that the owners have failed miserably in keeping us in touch with reality, we had a real chance to make things happen in the January window of 2010 , just an additional keeper could have kept us going. Yes we got there after many many years, we should have at least had a go at staying there and I don't mean shelving out millions and millions but taking a realistic chance on some players and yes agents too. I wen to Leicester last Saturday and although I am not one to berate the team I did think back to the side we had just a few years ago, the quality we had is just not there anymore and with the last of the parachute money due next season can't see any expenditure on players so would not be surprised to see us once again slip into oblivion. Long term players we once had on the books like Southern, Burgess and Evo we just haven't the luxury anymore, loan players going back in a few weeks who care very little for the club, how can you build a good stable team that way, you can't. Our predicament is down to the owners I am afraid, so sad to see so few at Ipswich 285 a few weeks back, 345 at Leicester, so many fans staying away, we must hope and pray we stay up which I think we will do, more than likely because three below us will not catch us otherwise the fan base will shrink further.
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Post by yeoldetangerine on Mar 17, 2014 20:57:32 GMT 1
What unites us on here is much stronger than that which divides us. Unlike other places, I can guarantee we will still all be following the Pool in ten years, whatever division
Still like Karl to get his cheque book out though LOL
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Mar 25, 2014 19:57:22 GMT 1
he better get his cheque book out as Val wants his money back
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Post by april13th1970 on Apr 9, 2014 18:36:19 GMT 1
Well, I for one have finally given up after last night . . . . . . for starters, I'm heartily sick of all the hypocrites who week after week claim they are going to boycott the home games as a protest but are still there at the next game
For me, the final straw was the despicable behaviour by some of our so-called supporters !! If you don't like the way the club is going, there is a time and place to protest and sending a message out to the players during the game that we aren't supporting them only hurts their morale and puts our Championship survival in even greater jeopardy
If anybody here was one of those in the south stand who tried to shout down the protestors, good on you
If anyone here was amongst those who were screaming abuse at fans not joining the protest, I abhor you
And if the idiot who screamed abuse in my face is on here, be warned, if you ever do that again, you'll have to pick through your excrement to find your teeth !!!
Thank you and goodbye
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Post by pikeypete on Apr 10, 2014 10:12:55 GMT 1
April its a horrible time to be a Blackpool fan. I, like most, are heartily sick of the Oystons but when the team is playing I support the team. The time to protest is at the final whistle IMO. I think a lot will be voting with their feet at the end of the season but the frustration is spilling on to the terraces already and Burnley and Charlton games will be the same. I've got a load of moaners next to me who continually rubbish the players and even here tempers are starting to rise. I felt my own temperature increase during the silly "olays" but at the end of the day we all react differently when under stress. I'm probably going to pick and choose my games next year and enjoy the away games when the whole experience is far more pleasant.
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Post by tangerinerob79 on Apr 10, 2014 16:06:13 GMT 1
Pete, I would guess if Oyston is still their next season and things dont change, you would think BR would be better than away games, purely as i can see people voting with their feet at koko and doing exactly what you will do! The hardcore fans will opt for away games not to give koko a penny more & thats where the frustration and anger will b shown! Sad times mate! Not only r we going so far backwards, were heading bk to the 80s in more ways than one! This could all be avoided!
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Apr 11, 2014 5:42:50 GMT 1
I'm finding this season really hard and it saddens me to sit there and watch the club and fans ripping themselves apart, one of the biggest problem is we have only 5 contracted players we have been lucky with loans in the past but our luck is out now and a team needs building and that means money spending and i don't want to get into the whole money and oystons argument as it just depresses me, but remember this Karl you said the money paid out to daddy would always be available in times of need, well this summer is a massive time of need no matter what league we playing in.
Just a couple of tips as well Karl please tell your son to stop winding the fans up with his social media crap its not very professional and maybe not clapping above your head when fans are singing about you could also help defuse situations.............
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Post by sandgrown'un on Apr 11, 2014 19:29:08 GMT 1
It gives me no pleasure to say but I have seen this coming for a while now. What people are talking about now I did a short while ago and painfully exiled myself from Bloomfield Road because I was sick of the moaners and coming nearly to blows with your own fans is not good. It just seems to me it has got steadily worse. I cant see anything changing much now because new generations of people are this way in life now, impatient. I have quietly taken in a few away games and that has been ok and the real fans turn up there in the main.
Sad, all very sad.
UTMP
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Post by yeoldetangerine on Apr 11, 2014 19:51:34 GMT 1
Don't know what to think at the moment, Sandy. The thought of threats of violence at B/R was what stopped me going in the 70's, but the thought of the club drifting back into the oblivion that folks like you saved us from all those years ago fills me with horror. Fans on a wind up, Karl on a wind up, players in the middle, BF on a hiding to nothing, but seemingly not smart enough yet.
Magic wand required, anyone know of one available??
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