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Post by roadchefourstands on Jan 28, 2011 10:29:12 GMT 1
I would say that at the start of the season, SKY probably thought we were a threat to their viewing figures as no-one would want to watch our featured games.
They are now probably rubbing their hands together trying to shoehorn as many of them into the live spots as they can, as they realise that everyone wants to watch our brand of exciting and entertaining football.
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Post by mickyg on Jan 28, 2011 10:44:14 GMT 1
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Post by roadchefourstands on Jan 28, 2011 10:55:09 GMT 1
....Unless Oyston lets him resign, thinking of how much bonus money he will save.......... nothing would suprise me about Potter....
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Post by yenilira on Jan 28, 2011 10:59:37 GMT 1
I think what the Prem is after us about is the 'Rule' - which incidently, every club signed - that is still enshrouded within the Prem rulings viz. "every team must send out their first team" or words to that effect. I think everybody missed that one when they signed up for the "25-man squad" rule - To me, these two 'Rules' contradict each other.
Can't remember off the top of my head the numbers, etc. of these rules but I mind seeing them on 606 a day or two ago.
YL.
- - - - Rule E20. (post amended).
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Post by mickyg on Jan 28, 2011 11:03:42 GMT 1
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Post by yenilira on Jan 28, 2011 20:19:21 GMT 1
The 'Big Guns' are out in support of Blackpool and Wee Ollie: Ian Holloway’s fellow top-flight managers rallied to his support today, led by Sir Alex Ferguson.The Scot’s Manchester United team provided the opposition last season when Wolves fielded what was deemed an under-strength side and were handed a suspended £25,000 fine by the Premier League. Both Ferguson and Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger believes this season’s new 25-man squad limit negates the need for Rule E.20 in the Premier League regulations, which states that “In every league match each participating club shall field a full-strength team” and which Blackpool were adjudged to have breached with their selection. “You are allowed to have 25 players,” said Ferguson, who is expected to make a significant number of changes to his own starting line-up for tomorrow’s FA Cup tie at Southampton.“They ask you to name them. They don’t ask you to name your 11 and 14 substitutes. The rules are there.” Everton boss David Moyes believes Blackpool have been harshly treated in principle, but feels the level of the fine suggests the Premier League were merely undertaking an obligation to enforce rules. “The fact is, Blackpool went into that game and gave a great account of themselves, losing in the last minute,” he said. “I think it is harsh that a club has been fined but I think to fine them £25,000 tells me the Premier League don’t really want to fine them.“If they did I would have thought they would fine them more than that.“It is quite a small fine, I think it is just a slap on the wrist and saying ‘make sure you behave’.” Carlo Ancelotti slammed the Premier League’s decision, insisting he would refuse to pay if the same happened to Chelsea. “For me, it’s ridiculous, this fine,” the Chelsea boss said.“Because Holloway knows very well his team, and he is able to decide which player has to play. (Evening Gazette) The support for Ollie is gathering! YL.
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Jan 28, 2011 20:45:42 GMT 1
bet they are wishing they had not bothered now, the amount of flak is mounting on the prem board, maybe a head should roll lol
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Post by whitstabletangerin on Jan 28, 2011 23:16:17 GMT 1
I realise the above subject has caused widespread indignation but I would assume the rule we breached was brought about for a particular reason. Now, we play Aston Villa and get thumped 7-0 and the villa fans, although welcoming the 3 pts moan about watching a practice match because Blackpool put out a very weak team. Action is taken. On the other hand the villa fans get, but only just, their 3 pts and an entertainng game of football getting the winner in the 89th minute in a game that could of gone either way. Action is taken. The point being, a rule may well have been breached in the eyes of the authorative power, a rule brought in to safeguard results as in item 1, but in our case when we went to win the game and very nearly did , they should have waived the rule because we competed in a very competative manner. Some of the more wealthier squads have 25 players of similar high standard, less wealthier clubs have 25 players of mixed ability and when a manager chooses a team for a game he does it based on his squads ability to perform not just for one match but for the time period set out. They should now admit that although we breached (in their eyes) that particular rule, because of the competative way in which we undertook the fixture, the fine should be cancelled.
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Post by roadchefourstands on Jan 28, 2011 23:37:52 GMT 1
sorry, I disagree,
the team picked,was picked to play and win. there were internationals, seasoned Pool regulars and new signings. Ollie has the whole squad playing his football.
Ollie is asked to name a 25 player squad and he names 24 players that he will use until January. He uses the named 25 player squad as he sees fit. He plays a team at Villa that narrowly lose in the last minute.
end of story. Appeal will be upheld.
The FA cup is a separate competition,regulated be a separate footballing authority. Our weakened team against Southampton was cited as one of the reasons the fine was imposed.
Any lawyer worth his salt could rip this fine to pieces, and I hope we do.
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Post by whitstabletangerin on Jan 29, 2011 0:16:27 GMT 1
Sorry chef, but in my third paragraph I said, we went to win the game and very nearly did.
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Post by yenilira on Jan 29, 2011 0:49:32 GMT 1
Although the Prem and FA and whoever are citing that we lost against Southampton in the CUP, we (according to them) contravened League Rule E20 which states that, inter alia, we must field a full-strength side, i.e. against Villa, in the LEAGUE, which as we all know, we didn't. (despite losing narrowly, which is irrelevant to the point according to them).
That's where we are being got at, tho' the S'ton game is a by-product, if you will, and taken into account, in their ruling.
But, as we all know, the FA and Prem interpretate the rules and move the goalposts to suit themselves against the 'smaller' clubs and not the likes of Man Unt, Chelsea, and Arsenal, et al. When was the last time SAF, for example, was fined for fielding a "weakened" team?
Beggers the question: How many of these 'suits' at FA and Prem have played league football or managed a club even? Precious few, I believe.
YL
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Post by yenilira on Jan 29, 2011 1:13:26 GMT 1
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Jan 29, 2011 7:50:16 GMT 1
This has nothing to do with the villa game, more and more its they are stating the Fa cup match was the problem, on the very thin ice of any booking picked up in a cup match is carried into the next prem match .
its a joke ollie told everybody about the cup match and nobody really lost out seeing, that southhampton then got another glamour tie in the next round, I will be wtching to see the teams for this round me thinks.
oh by the way FA their is no crappy 25 man squad rule for cup ties so how the hell can you tie this match in.
somebody should start one of those face book thingys to get fans to email the fa, if nothing else it would crash their system
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Jan 29, 2011 8:28:46 GMT 1
i think i have woken up in a different world today!!!
especially when you find a article by Mark-Lawrenson defending us and having a go at the men in suits
It’s a disgrace and a terrible decision by the Premier League to fine Blackpool £25,000 for fielding a so-called weakened team at Aston Villa.
The Premier League enforced the 25 player squad rule. Then they turn round and tell clubs they can’t use all the players in that squad. The Premier League are breaking their own rules.
They have made themselves look stupid. Arsenal made eight changes at Wigan, drew and didn’t get fined. Manchester United regularly make wholesale changes.
Blackpool do it, play well and are unlucky to lose at Villa. What happens? They get fined. What a joke. The Premier League should hang their heads in shame.
Furthermore, Holloway being accused of doing something wrong over the sale of Charlie Adam is also out of order.
It is common in football for managers to have written into their contracts that they are entitled to a cut of the profit if they sign a player, improve him and sell him on.
It’s an incentive and it also helps ensure everything is above board, in the contract and no dirty money gets involved. Smaller clubs do it all the time, I assure you. If you ran a business, made a purchase for £500,000 and sold at a profit of ten times the original amount thanks to your management wouldn’t you think you may have deserved some financial reward?
That’s what Blackpool and Holloway have done with Charlie Adam and the manager deserves only praise for the job he’s done this season, not stupid men in suits at the Premier League and unfair accusations.
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Post by yeoldetangerine on Jan 29, 2011 10:30:13 GMT 1
Bleedin, 'ell, Lawrenson supporting the club's position, spooky. I do wonder if this is crap understanding all ways round, partic when heavyweights like Wenger and SAF weigh in on our side. There is a rule to not put out weak sides, there is a 25 squad, the managers assumed that meant they could play any of the squad, a weak side would be lots of youngsters under 21, who don't need to be in the squad. Prem didn't get it, and judged from within the squad only? I assumed that we wouldn't win an appeal, I now wonder whether we might
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Post by bigjohncraven on Jan 29, 2011 11:41:10 GMT 1
I have a feeling we will appeal and they will suspend the fine and worn us of our future conduct. That way everyone gets a bit of what they want,and nobody has to back down and say "your right it is a silly rule now we have a 25 man squad" Then at the end of the season they can sort it out once and for all by dropping the damn thing.
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Post by Tangerine Sherlock on Jan 30, 2011 8:41:13 GMT 1
The important bit we all wanted to hear from ollies independent article, pity the club could not have said anything.
Let's start with the fine. The Premier League hit us with a £25,000 punishment because I made 10 changes for our League match with Aston Villa in November. When I was told, I honestly could not believe it and I certainly can't print here the words I was coming out with. I find it so offensive and nonsensical for these people to sit in their glass houses and throw stones. It is a joke.
I said I would resign if I got fined and that is what I did on Friday. I offered my resignation to my chairman Karl Oyston because that is how strongly I feel. He says he won't accept it and that is up to him.
Its a cracking read this week you can find the link in the latest news section in the press tab
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